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mrsbradey



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:08 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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Sterilize every last one of the "extremist" bastards, drive them down to the nearest harbour, chuck them into the sea and let the fuckers swim to Mecca.... that's what I would do if I was the so called "government" of this country. Round the lot of the savages up, rip their balls off with a pair of pliers and kick their arses into the sea.


A bit harsh I think, but I don't doubt it would be a very effective!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Errr so let me get this right do you suggest we dip them in jeyes fluid or autoclave them ?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsbradey wrote:
PinkFloyd wrote:
Sterilize every last one of the "extremist" bastards, drive them down to the nearest harbour, chuck them into the sea and let the fuckers swim to Mecca.... that's what I would do if I was the so called "government" of this country. Round the lot of the savages up, rip their balls off with a pair of pliers and kick their arses into the sea.


A bit harsh I think, but I don't doubt it would be a very effective!!!


A lot more civilised than beheading them...... they get to keep their heads but lose their balls..... I call that very fair.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cameron says 'an act of pure evil' an understatement for the dreadful, sickening death of David Haines at the hands of those.................
Words fail me, to call them any name at all is to give them human status, to call them animals is a misnomer ( there are no animals that do things for a so-called cause ), they are not anything. I don't understand why the powers that be are fiddling around the edges blasting a few of them, they will only make the remaining ones more determined, more resiliant and more pissed off.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But now the British Govt will be able to do something as this will be used as justification and a whole can of whoop ass will be unleashed on IS including those trying to come home. Expect a ratcheting up of terror laws and action against radicals in this country.


Just to show complete and utter distaste Alex Salmond dropping his hat in the ring to use this to add to his credibility.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, its a great time to be even contemplating leaving the security of having the rest of the UK to help with counter terrorism, reducing our defences and leaving NATO. Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we wouldn't need british forces or nato if we were independent because everyone loves us scots.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seen a thing on the news the other day when they were interviewing folk that have just qualified to vote i.e 16 years old
a girl says, I think its good that we are getting rid of nuclear weapons, I mean we are a peaceful nation anyway so wont need them.

FFS you daft bint, what about all the other not so peaceful nations that may want to hit the wee soft country with no defence and oodles of oil.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh but they don't count as long as you tell everyone you love them and wish them cuddles and happiness they leave you alone.
As we can see from the Ukraines current situation Russia is obviously not sending in troops because Putin says they aren't, the mere fact they speak Russian, live and reside in Russia get paid by the Russian army and wear Russian uniforms it's irrelevant, because when they are on holiday they can do as they wish.
It's that kind  fluffy headed wooly socialist thinking that will sink this country to its knees,
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems the Yankees decided that Syrian targets are ok and they unleashed a whole can of whoop ass on them last night.

Bet some of those Isis boys have headaches this morning  Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Kurds are about to lose their battle for the Syrian/Turkish border town of Kobani. It seems that while air strikes are welcomed (by the Kurds anyway) they are not that effective at detering the sustained attack on the town defended by 15,000 regular and volunteer Kurdish troops.

The numbers estimated of IS fighters must be wrong unless they are all in Kobani.

The Turks seem to have lined up all their tanks on the border in a master stroke of tactics.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ducati wrote:
The Kurds are about to lose their battle for the Syrian/Turkish border town of Kobani. It seems that while air strikes are welcomed (by the Kurds anyway) they are not that effective at detering the sustained attack on the town defended by 15,000 regular and volunteer Kurdish troops.

The numbers estimated of IS fighters must be wrong unless they are all in Kobani.

The Turks seem to have lined up all their tanks on the border in a master stroke of tactics.

Do you think they're waiting for the last of the civilians to leave before they bomb IS to hell and back?
I don't understand those Turks. They hate the Kurdish folk yet they've(rightly) let them into Turkey, an  they won't take military action until various promises have been made, meanwhile their border is compromised. If you can put me right, I would very much appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got me Susie, I don't understand the situation at all. It seems IS are presenting themselves like a conventional force, leading attacks with tanks and heavy artillary. Just the sort of scenario that NATO have been training for for 50 years, and yet they don't seem to be effective in stopping them.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ducati wrote:
You've got me Susie, I don't understand the situation at all. It seems IS are presenting themselves like a conventional force, leading attacks with tanks and heavy artillary. Just the sort of scenario that NATO have been training for for 50 years, and yet they don't seem to be effective in stopping them.

Well I've learnt something I didn't know MrD, Ithought they were more haphazard than to lead with heavy artillery. No wonder the Kurds chaps can't do much, I gather they haven't got the necessary equipment to hold IS back. The sooner the evacuation of civilians is complete the sooner (hopefully) the air attacks can start.
Same subject, different act. What do you make of that Moazzam Begg who says he offerred to get poor Alan Henning out by talking to IS? Someone is telling lies or hiding the truth or saving face. How dare any of them play with peoples lives in that way?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a few realities to deal with here. Firstly Turkey is a Muslim country and have no great love of the Kurds. Secondly Turkey is a NATO country Syria is not.

To some extent it serves Turkey well to have IS persecute a war against the Kurds whilst Turkey sits back and does very little except let the UN and other aid organisations set up camps for the refugees. In one swoop they appear to be generous but at the same time achieving their own goals.

IS in Syria is not a NATO problem and lining up tanks along your border is merely a show of force, Turkey has been vocal that if IS cross the border it will retaliate so as long as the fighting remains within Syria it's the international communities problem and doesn't create a problem for what could be turkeys new next door neighbour.


An attack on any one Nato member is considered an attack on all of them so if IS cross the border it's a game changer and opens up the potential for a convention ground war, which IS would stand no hope of winning. No doubt bombing will continue Syria will eventually sort itself out and Turkey will sit back and be happy.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for this info MrR, it has cleared one or two things up for me.I didn't know about the NATO side of things.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moazzam Begg strikes me as a bit a Walter Mitty, I don't think he is being taken seriously.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ducati wrote:
Moazzam Begg strikes me as a bit a Walter Mitty, I don't think he is being taken seriously.

You could be right but how can we tell? With no real go-between should we not give him the opportunity to prove himself. What's the worst that can happen? Or is Islamist State not talking to anyone except the young virgins they keep coaxing over to their side?

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