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RagnarRocks
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:17 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Political Correctness is another of those amazing California ideas that in reality is a leftie way of suppressing freedom of speech. How often do you hear people of a more liberal/left wing bias utter you can't say that. What they really mean is I don't want you to say that.

With the IS problem and radicalisation of Muslim youth of course going off to fight a war will be more exciting that working in primark or some call centre, no different to youth joining the armed forces but without all the rules and regulations, so unless you can cure youthful risk taking and stupidity it's going to be very difficult to stop. Fortunately many of them die in the process of being Middle East radicals, the problem comes when they return home and haven't got the violence bug out of their systems and want to start trying to change this country. Contrary to popular opinion it doesn't require thousands of men to flatten a city a couple of hundred if armed well could bring absolute chaos to any major European city, that's when we will have to rethink political correctness.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RR is quite correct. It wouldn't take much to bring this country to pretty much a standstill.

We forget in the UK just how geographically small we are, and with quite poor physical lines of communication.
Also, the majority of the population are a bunch of wusses with no resilience. Just look what happens when it snows or rains!

The issue now is how they are dealt with abroad, and has the UK got any grip on it's borders and movement of people?

Home grown fanatics are a huge issue, if the security services haven't got a grip on where they are, where they've been and when they may come back... well, we could be in for a shock.

The only 'upside' at the moment is, they are seemingly intent on actions in the Middle East and want to use Social Media to try and scare us rather than bring their war here.

However, should that change, we will be dealing with people happy to die for their cause. Unlike other groups that were intent of escaping intact.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phill wrote:
RR is quite correct. It wouldn't take much to bring this country to pretty much a standstill.

We forget in the UK just how geographically small we are, and with quite poor physical lines of communication.
Also, the majority of the population are a bunch of wusses with no resilience. Just look what happens when it snows or rains!

The issue now is how they are dealt with abroad, and has the UK got any grip on it's borders and movement of people?

Home grown fanatics are a huge issue, if the security services haven't got a grip on where they are, where they've been and when they may come back... well, we could be in for a shock.

The only 'upside' at the moment is, they are seemingly intent on actions in the Middle East and want to use Social Media to try and scare us rather than bring their war here.

However, should that change, we will be dealing with people happy to die for their cause. Unlike other groups that were intent of escaping intact.
I couldn't agree more! It is very difficult to fight those who consider dying an honour and will be, quite literally, praised for being a martyr!

There ARE more in 'your' country than you think!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing is for sure our Muslim problem (I'm sure you aren't allowed to call it that) isn't going away anytime soon. The relationship between the different ethnic groups within the UK is changing and the future isn't looking cozy.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2011 Census says:

White: 55million; 87% of population
Asian:  4.4million; 7% of population
Black:  2million; 3% of population
Mixed: 1.2million; 2% of population

Total people living in Scotland:  5million; 8% of population

So what's the problem ?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you put it like that, you'd really think there wasn't one. Trouble is, we don't have even distribution. I can't talk though, as a white settler in Scotland I'm as popular as a turd in a jacouzzi!  Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ducati are you saying that you are less than popular in the sunny north coast? Some would have it that racism does not exist in our modern Scotland. That it would disappear with the Declaration of Independence in our new inclusive Scotland.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I wasn't very popular on e.org that's for sure. But I was really referring to all white settlers in all Scotland. Since the current rise of Nationalism that is.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been fortunate not to have faced racism in Scotland then if incidents are on the increase. Did you see the ubiquitous one mentioned a Women for Independence boring no doubt poorly attended event on one of the threads. Wonder if she will put in an appearance. Maybe she would like eggs for breakfast
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ubiquitous one is very forthright in her views on e org but considering how much public speaking she claims to do doesn't like to be named or actually identified no doubt if you went up and said hello you'd have a visit from the men in blue with the charge of stalking levelled at you.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you know who she is RagnarRocks? I have known for some time as an acquaintance I have worked with her. I have to say he had a higher opinion of her than I have, but there is no accounting for taste.

Now I have met several other members of the org and I can say a good pint of beer and a fine dram is often improved by their company. Sadly no longer posters.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No can't say I've ever met her.
But this Mornings news about another beheading isn't good IS is obviously taking some damage from U.S intervention I'm wondering what is going to happen now as the threat increases from these jihadists
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If every time they get in a vehicle results in a loud bang and a meeting with Allah, they will soon run out of personnel. (and the desire to get into vehicles).
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A report on the news last night stated that there's a large group of jihadis negotiating to come back as they are disillusioned with how the war really is.

I suggest it's probably more down to the fact they aren't jollying about untouched in technicals now but being given some tough love from Momma USA and her nice wee aeroplanes with jihadi anal annihilator missiles on board
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes those depleted Uranium enemas really suck! Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appears with the US upping the frequency and scope of strikes that the IS loonys have no defence and can be forced to give up territory at will. All over bar the scorched earth as long as the pressure is kept up and even increased. Won't be pretty though.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ducati wrote:
It appears with the US upping the frequency and scope of strikes that the IS loonys have no defence and can be forced to give up territory at will. All over bar the scorched earth as long as the pressure is kept up and even increased. Won't be pretty though.
It doesn't need to be pretty, just effective!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problem is because of the nature of IS all the do is withdraw into towns and cities and air power isn't really effective unless you're happy to accept high collateral damage. I suspect they will wait till they are on the move and do some bump and grind in the desert with them. Once the degrade their technical vehicles to a degree where it compromises their ability to be mobile life becomes easier.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they will be a lot less trouble and even easier to target wondering around the desert on Shanks's pony.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sterilize every last one of the "extremist" bastards, drive them down to the nearest harbour, chuck them into the sea and let the fuckers swim to Mecca.... that's what I would do if I was the so called "government" of this country. Round the lot of the savages up, rip their balls off with a pair of pliers and kick their arses into the sea.

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