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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:36 pm    Post subject: Ebola global threat or continental  Reply with quote

I've been tracking this epidemic for a few months now from when it was a handful of cases seems it's now spreading more quickly than we could of believed before and is now the largest ever ebola outbreak, with new cases popping up far to regularly. With the frightening speed with which this disease is spreading is it purely an African continent problem or will it spread elsewhere ?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think it will spread, hopefulloy it can be contained before pandemic levels
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately I believe it will be impossible to contain, it only takes one lapse in security and it will be out. Is there a vaccine?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have an experimental vaccine but from what I read only had twelve doses.  A friend of mine in South Africa says they aren't too worried as it's still mainly up I'm one area but today's figures show over 1000 dead and 2000 infected that's quite a jump.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:14 pm    Post subject: return of infected nurse to uk! Reply with quote

Do you think that the nurse that was returned to the UK in a plastic bubble due to being infected with the virus, should have been allowed to re enter the UK? Or should he have been treated where he was?

The virus is definately now in the UK, and we all know what hospital bio security can be like!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fairly typical of today's wishy washy PC liberalism risk the lives of millions to save one person. Personally I'd of flown the equipment out to him rather than let him in the country same result with zero potential for risking the population here. Also the equipment could of been used after to save more lives out there so the end result would of been more beneficial.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RagnarRocks wrote:
Fairly typical of today's wishy washy PC liberalism risk the lives of millions to save one person. Personally I'd of flown the equipment out to him rather than let him in the country same result with zero potential for risking the population here. Also the equipment could of been used after to save more lives out there so the end result would of been more beneficial.
Totally agree with you there, old chap!! Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Ebola global threat or continental Reply with quote

RagnarRocks wrote:
I've been tracking this epidemic for a few months now from when it was a handful of cases seems it's now spreading more quickly than we could of believed before and is now the largest ever ebola outbreak, with new cases popping up far to regularly. With the frightening speed with which this disease is spreading is it purely an African continent problem or will it spread elsewhere ?

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I dont think it can be contained, in the last 30 years the world has become a very small place, i/e world travellers etc.. we have it here already.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Ebola global threat or continental Reply with quote

johno wrote:
RagnarRocks wrote:
I've been tracking this epidemic for a few months now from when it was a handful of cases seems it's now spreading more quickly than we could of believed before and is now the largest ever ebola outbreak, with new cases popping up far to regularly. With the frightening speed with which this disease is spreading is it purely an African continent problem or will it spread elsewhere ?

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I dont think it can be contained, in the last 30 years the world has become a very small place, i/e world travellers etc.. we have it here already.
We certainly do now!!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just need to look at how containment of a similarly infectious disease, foot and mouth (the bovine et al variety) is effected, to see the vast difference between the two.  With FiM, efforts centre on containment and reduction in opportunities to spread it.  With Ebola, efforts seem to be on treatment.  For a disease with between 55% and 90% mortality rates (the BBC reckon this round is 55% but it can be up to 90%), then that is very muc h a case of horses, stable doors and inneffective padlocks.

Recent FiM outbreaks have highlighted that the modern way of living exacerbates the situation significantly.  Importing meat and livestock from other countries in preference to using home reared livestock, and the vast distances that livestock now have to travel to an abbatoir due to daft EU regulations, are just 2 reasons why more recent FiM outbreaks have been so widespread.

Do the same with Ebola, and then no one should be surprised when it becomes wide reaching.  Or we could al just absorb yet more vaccines, until we all become Ebola vaccine resistant, just like everything else!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

orkneycadian wrote:
You just need to look at how containment of a similarly infectious disease, foot and mouth (the bovine et al variety) is effected, to see the vast difference between the two.  With FiM, efforts centre on containment and reduction in opportunities to spread it.  With Ebola, efforts seem to be on treatment.  For a disease with between 55% and 90% mortality rates (the BBC reckon this round is 55% but it can be up to 90%), then that is very muc h a case of horses, stable doors and inneffective padlocks.

Recent FiM outbreaks have highlighted that the modern way of living exacerbates the situation significantly.  Importing meat and livestock from other countries in preference to using home reared livestock, and the vast distances that livestock now have to travel to an abbatoir due to daft EU regulations, are just 2 reasons why more recent FiM outbreaks have been so widespread.

Do the same with Ebola, and then no one should be surprised when it becomes wide reaching.  Or we could al just absorb yet more vaccines, until we all become Ebola vaccine resistant, just like everything else!

So we're all doomed!!  Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So we're all doomed!!  Crying or Very sad[/quote]


YES you are.

I had a owl land on my roof last night apparently Mother Nature is cooking up a global pandemic especial just for you  Twisted Evil  Evil or Very Mad  Wink Shocked   :
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was reading that Liberia the epidemic is out of control and spreading like wildfire. The govt are saying it's causing major problems for them to maintain the normal functions of state
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice of the USA to send 3000 folks to aid with bringing the virus under control and china to lend a helping hand.

That's 3000 vectors to get it back to good ole USA the public will love that one
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stats seem to suggest its doubling every 2 - 3 weeks, deaths as well as cases....

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right it's starting to hit big numbers now a few years ago the world would of been in lockdown if they'd of seen the same numbers with a flu outbreak.
Look for the upshot you can volunteer to get dosed up with the new trial ebola stuff in London free of charge.

Now that's got to be worth jumping out of bed for on a Saturday morning
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

orkneycadian wrote:
Stats seem to suggest its doubling every 2 - 3 weeks, deaths as well as cases....

2600
5200
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Christmas
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322800
645600
1291200
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Over 400 more since this time last week Sad  Not quite a doubling every 2 - 3 weeks for a good job, but still a concerning rise.  And still a fraction of the number of deaths from numerous other less "exotic" causes but a concerning rise all the same
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just what the doctor ordered the USA has an ebola patient now, considered in a serious condition and left on 19th sept. So let's see how far this person has travelled spread th disease since then.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh the Joy of living well away from others.
The slow creep of this disease has started across the globe.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You see, you were all right about Ebola. The US has got a case now on top of the Spanish one, how long until we get one in the UK with all the to-ing and  fro-ing going on?
I can't see how they can contain such a problem.
Sierra Leone hasn't got control of their outbreak and I suppose the same is true in the other African states and countries. It's a very worrying situation.

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