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ducati

Shotgun/firearms licence again!

Yet another fucking nutjob convicted of murder with a legally held shotgun.

When are we going to learn? This twat had it confiscated then some dickhead in Surry police gave it him back.

Demand all licences be revoked today. Then anyone who thinks they need one can re-apply. The police have proved time and again they are incompetent to issue them so we need a new system.

Personally, I believe anyone who wants one is a psychopath, and if we went ahead on that premise then very few would be issued.
mrsbradey

Re: Shotgun/firearms licence again!

ducati wrote:
Yet another fucking nutjob convicted of murder with a legally held shotgun.

When are we going to learn? This twat had it confiscated then some dickhead in Surry police gave it him back.

Demand all licences be revoked today. Then anyone who thinks they need one can re-apply. The police have proved time and again they are incompetent to issue them so we need a new system.

Personally, I believe anyone who wants one is a psychopath, and if we went ahead on that premise then very few would be issued.


Your anger should be directed more at the police i think rather than the actual psycho!

Shotguns can be a useful tool on a farm or smallholding, for the likes of vermin control and birdscaring!

Also useful for getting rid of unwanted visitors, if accompanied by shouting the phrase,

              "GET ORF MOY LAARND"

In a devon accent,   whilst popping off a couple of rounds!!
ducati

Joking aside, if they are going to  hand them out  to any fucking psycho, they should at least let everyone have one so we can defend ourselves.  Razz
mrsbradey

We were just saying (as a result of this thread) that we should get one to defend ourselves from zombies when the world goes tits up!

As you say 'joking aside', just watching it on the news, it does seem that the Surrey Police have have made a complete fuck up!

There are many folk in Caithness with fire arms certificates (fac) for high powered hunting rifles as well as shotguns, that should not be allowed anything more than a water pistol!

The police in Caithness have in the past themselves been brought into questions, after granting fac to unsuitable candidates, some that are alleged to have suffered mental illness and even alcoholics!!

Defies all logic!
ducati

It doesn't surprise me. My (ex) brother in law is a moron and was welcomed into the police force. My nephew who isn't, (degree in criminal psychology) can't get in.  Rolling Eyes
mrsbradey

ducati wrote:
It doesn't surprise me. My (ex) brother in law is a moron and was welcomed into the police force. My nephew who isn't, (degree in criminal psychology) can't get in.  Rolling Eyes


That sounds about right!

I think generally, it's the wrong people who apply for the police, a lot just see it as an opportunity to wear a uniform, become enriched with power and bully people, most police i have had the misfortune to meet are arrogant and self important!!

I applied to join the North Yorkshire constabulary (many moons ago), but was turned down, the reason being, I was too short, and overweight for my height!!

I bet i could outrun most coppers my age now!! Especially in Caithness!!!
mrsbradey

Was talking to a farmer today, and they were saying it took the northern contabulary 4 month to change the address on their fac,

.........And  then they came out and inspected their gun cabinet,

.........Still no fac after a further few weeks, so farmer calls caithness police to ask why,

......... Bobby says, " why you only got two guns on fac, when i saw three when i
         inspected  "?.

......... Farmer says "no i only have two, you have made a mistake",

......... Plod says " oh, ok then",

......... and issues fac 4 months after they moved up here from the south,  

Despite the police being unsure of how many guns were on premisis!!

Don't think it's just Surrey Police cocking up big style, there ALL at it!!! Rolling Eyes
Haggis Muncher

ducati wrote:
It doesn't surprise me. My (ex) brother in law is a moron and was welcomed into the police force. My nephew who isn't, (degree in criminal psychology) can't get in.  Rolling Eyes


He isn't stationed in Surrey perchance?  Shocked
orkneycadian

I don't seem to recall this level of concern for public safety when a 6 month old baby was the latest victim to be killed by a divil dug?

Or any similar calls for a fit for purpose divil dug (or any dug) licencing system.
ducati

Dugs don't carry long range weapons.
mrsbradey

ducati wrote:
Dugs don't carry long range weapons.


Maybe yours don't ducati, but those Divil Dugs sure are sneaky fekkers!! Twisted Evil
orkneycadian

ducati wrote:
Dugs don't carry long range weapons.


And it appears that they don't need to.  Even with nothing more than a set of teeth, 4 sets of claws and a deranged mind, they can attack 200,000 folk a year in the UK, and hospitalise over 6,000 of them. (source = http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/u...g-attack-laws-and-statistics.html)

About 10 times the number hospitalised and about 50 odd times the number injured with firearms (souce = table C in www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn01940.pdf)

OK, the former is for the whole of the UK, and the latter for just England and Wales, but you get the gist, and could apply some corrections if you wish.  But the dugs will still remain the bigger menaces.
ducati

OK. It doesn't make me mind being shot any less.

Are you saying that it doesn't matter if you are killed in a plane crash because it is much safer than the train? Laughing
orkneycadian

Nah, divil dugs should be licenced and only owned by people with a demonstrated need for them, and a demonstrated ability to keep them under control.
ducati

They are banned already! Anyone owning one is commiting an offence.

As should Firearms be.

And...how could you possibly 'need' a dangerous dog? Confused
orkneycadian

Exactly.  And the amount of divilness in a divil dug should be judged by the number of attacks they mount.  Chiuhuahas are probaly off the hook, but Staffordshires would be on a one way ticket due to their repeated maulings.  

I agree, treat them like firearms.  Have a licence that follows the same process.  First you fill in a form and describe the type of dug you need.  Send in your cheque with the passport pics, and await the visit from the law to come and check out your suitability to own a divil dug, as well as the suitability of the premises you will keep it in, and the land you will "use" it on.  Give them permission to contact your GP so they can check your medical records and determine your suitability to be a dug owner.

Wait a few more months to see if your application is approved, and if successful, take your new licence to the local divil dug dealer.  He or she will sell you only the type of dug you have a licence for, and only the number specified on the licence.  He/she will record the serial number of the dug and you will both inform the local law.

If at any time, you are believed not to be suitable to have a divil dug, the law will take it away from you and revoke your licence.

That all sounds fairly reasonable to me!
ducati

It would be indeed, if a number of the aboved licenced, didn't blow someone's fucking brains out. Followed by their neighbours and friends telling the press "well everyone knew he was a fucking nutjob, why did they ever give him a licence?"  Rolling Eyes
orkneycadian

Rather ironically, 2 years ago, it was the divil dug owner in Daventry who spoke out to the press about one of her dogs being a "nutjob"....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/a...rice-owning-dog-says-coroner.html

And the neighbours who complained to council agreed.....
ducati

Like I said, it doesn't make me mind being shot any less.
orkneycadian

And I am sure being mauled to death is such a nicer way to go.....

And statistically, more likely.
mrsbradey

orkneycadian wrote:
And I am sure being mauled to death is such a nicer way to go.....

And statistically, more likely.


I'd rather fight a raging staffy than a nutter with a shotgun!!!

The strategy you describe for the dugs, is how it is supposed to work, albeit without the license. i watched a tv prog about dangerous dogs and their owners a while back, it was a total joke! Two male police officers were to inspect a blonde bimbo's dogs and habitat with a view to allow her to keep her two American Pitbulls. Before the Cops got there the dogs set about each other, the woman was unable to split the dogs up, and had to be helped by the film crew!! When the Cops arrived the dogs were covered in blood with chunks out of them, the Bimbo just waggled her tits at the coppers and they signed off her certificate!!

The cops doing the Shotgun cert and FAC inspections, are just as weak as these!!

The whole system needs to be overhauled, Dogs and Guns alike!

or we could just round up all the Dickheads and shut them in an aircraft hanger with all the dangerous Dogs AND Shotguns, that ought to sort it out!!!
orkneycadian

Not to mention anyone that owns a knife!  Even a vegetarian cannot demonstrate need for one these days when even veggies and salad come mouth or pan ready in bags from Tesco.

In this day and age, anyone possessing a vegetable knife is obviously a deranged nutter who should be locked up.  Even a tattie peeler could be a dangerous weapon, and completely superfluous when you can but pot ready tatties from Tesco.
mrsbradey

orkneycadian wrote:
Not to mention anyone that owns a knife!  Even a vegetarian cannot demonstrate need for one these days when even veggies and salad come mouth or pan ready in bags from Tesco.

In this day and age, anyone possessing a vegetable knife is obviously a deranged nutter who should be locked up.  Even a tattie peeler could be a dangerous weapon, and completely superfluous when you can but pot ready tatties from Tesco.


What about knitting needles?
orkneycadian

Completely lethal.  Have you seen the number of them that airport security staff have had to confiscate for jihadist little old ladies?
mrsbradey

orkneycadian wrote:
Completely lethal.  Have you seen the number of them that airport security staff have had to confiscate for jihadist little old ladies?


No I haven't, but i'm not surprised, its so cold in  Jihadistan they old biddies will be knitting constantly!!!

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