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susie

Fag Ads

I'm not sure they should be allowing the promotion of these cigarette replacements. We should be moving toward having no tobacco products at all and certainly don't need 'pretend' ones.
I like what they did in Australia, I think they banned anyone from buying baccy if they were born after 2000. It seems sensible.
I smoked from being 14 to about 26, then I gave up and stopped and started on and off until 10 years ago. I enjoyed every single cigarette and roll-up I ever had, they were great. I gave up completely because they all taste crap and stink more than they used to.
I used to smoke Churchill's and Rothman's and roll Old Holborn. I'd never encourage anyone to start, there's nothing very good about being smelly.
Do the plastic fags smell too? Do folk get a buzz out of smoking them? I read that some folk are starting to use them even though they've never smoked the real thing,why would they do that?
mrsbradey

Trend, I guess!

I heard that Medical advisors to the UK government, had advised a similar scheme for the UK, whereby anyone born in the year 2000, or later, would be banned from starting smoking.

Initially you would think, why would anyone oppose this move. On thinking about the issue, I think personally it is my body and if I want to poison it for my own pleasure, then I should have the right to do so.

There are those who will say that the extra burden on the health service caused by smoking related illness will be reduced, and that may be the case, but then revenue raised on tabacco sale would disappear, probably balancing out. Then add to that, the non smokers may live even longer, thus burdening the health service, and costing the treasury millions in elongated old age pensions. so there are most definately pros and cons!!

I smoked, also from the age of around 14 to around about 27 ,only stopping due to increased cost.  Twisted Evil I certainly would not encourage anyone to start smoking, but I will argue vigourously for their right to do so!!!
Jax

Nanny state, if folks want to smoke then they should be able to do so. The argument of its such a drain on the health service is poor, it keeps people in a job and what about the fatties no body says ban sugar in foodstuffs.
MI16

I can see your point, but they are allegedly harmless, niccotine suspended in water which is then vaopourised to make what apear to be smoke.
It is worth remembering though that these things are as yet unregulated and also the tobacco industry had us believe many moons ago that cigarettes were harmless.
Best just stopping in my opinion.
I too smoked from around 14 to 25 then quit for a number of years and went back to them for a couple, been off them for over 4 years again just now save for the occasional one when blootered
susie

I love it when you all talk with that gravelly, throaty voice with a cracking cough thrown in for good measure.......very, very nice
mrsbradey

We should request a comment from our resident smoker,

Ducati, are you recieving, over?
fred

Nicotine itself isn't too harmful, it's the other things in tobacco that do the damage particularly the tar.

Vaping is the future, tobacco is history.
Haggis Muncher

Re: Fag Ads

susie wrote:
I gave up completely because they all taste crap and stink more than they used to.


That will prob be the cheapo imported ones that you bought off those shady Thursa tinks! They don't mention that the fags contain human excrement, sawdust, floor sweepings, human scurf, animal hair and toe cheese mixed in with the dried docken leaves and shredded compost!
susie

Re: Fag Ads

Haggis Muncher wrote:
susie wrote:
I gave up completely because they all taste crap and stink more than they used to.


That will prob be the cheapo imported ones that you bought off those shady Thursa tinks! They don't mention that the fags contain human excrement, sawdust, floor sweepings, human scurf, animal hair and toe cheese mixed in with the dried docken leaves and shredded compost!

You're right about that HM! They used to joke about Park Drive ciggies, which were truly disgusting but very cheap, it was along the lines of -when mixing in the ciggy factory it was a shovel of baccy and a shovel of shit.
I never liked No6 either, which was handy for pals at work as they all smoked them so didn't have to offer me one.
One time when I was skint I dried some coltsfoot leaves, it weren't bad as a roll-up actually, not quite as satisfying though. Apparently folk smoked it before that prancing, traipsing chap took the real stuff back from the Americas.
My uncle used to grow his own tobacco in a special area of his garden. He smoked it in a pipe and it fucking wreaked, it was awful. He was a doctor and lived to be 95. So I guess it's the crap they put IN fags that hurts us not the actual tobacco itself.
ducati

mrsbradey wrote:
We should request a comment from our resident smoker,

Ducati, are you recieving, over?


I'm cutting way down. Shocked I might give it a shot if I get around to it.
mrsbradey

You could be notorg's very own scientific experiment guinea pig thingy, and get an electric fag! Then report your findings, all proper like!!
MI16

Never had an electric fag, but I do have a blow up sheep
fred

mrsbradey wrote:
You could be notorg's very own scientific experiment guinea pig thingy, and get an electric fag! Then report your findings, all proper like!!


Forget those electronic cigarettes they are crap. A clearomiser and ego battery is a good place to start. The Post Office in Lybster or Nickel and Dime in Thurso stock what you need.

You can stay with the clearomiser or move on to better things, loads of options to experiment with, it can turn into quite a hobby if you get carried away with it. Plenty on the internet on rebuildable vapourisers and mods.
susie

What are all these things you are mentioning? Are they air filters?
I think I'm missing out on many things these days!
fred

susie wrote:
What are all these things you are mentioning? Are they air filters?
I think I'm missing out on many things these days!


The possibilities are endless, it's all about finding the perfect vape for you.

There are loads of different e-liquid flavours to try and you can mix and match them and even buy the ingredients and make your own. A lot of people who don't smoke cigarettes vape nicotine free liquids just for the flavours. (Some of the vanilla ones are to die for, don't like the mint ones myself but loads of people do.)

Some people move on to vapourisers with replaceable wicks and coils and batteries with variable voltage(mods). They can mess around with different resistance of coils and battery settings to tune it to what they like. There are bottom wicks and top wicks each with their own advantages and disadvantages.

The more adventurous still get rebuildable vapes  and experiment making their own coils and wicks. There are various materials for wicks, I've used silica, ekowool, plain cotton wool and stainless steel, they are all different in the taste and amount of vapour they produce and how well they wick.

At the moment I'm using an AGA-S rebuildable with stainless steel mesh wick and a 2.5 ohm coil. The juice is a tobacco flavour high nicotine diluted 50/50 with ordinary vegetable glycerine from Tescos. I'll keep on chasing that perfect vape and with luck I'll never find it.
mrsbradey

fred wrote:

The possibilities are endless, it's all about finding the perfect vape for you.

There are loads of different e-liquid flavours to try and you can mix and match them........

....................Some people move on to vapourisers with replaceable wicks and coils and batteries with variable voltage(mods). They can mess around with different resistance of coils and battery settings to tune it to what they like. There are bottom wicks and top wicks each with their own advantages and disadvantages.

The more adventurous still get rebuildable vapes  and experiment making their own coils and wicks. There are various materials for wicks, I've used silica, ekowool, plain cotton wool and stainless steel, they are all different in the taste and amount of vapour they produce and how well they wick.

At the moment I'm using an AGA-S rebuildable with stainless steel mesh wick and a 2.5 ohm coil. The juice is a tobacco flavour high nicotine diluted 50/50 with ordinary vegetable glycerine from Tescos. I'll keep on chasing that perfect vape and with luck I'll never find it.


I might have to start smoking again, just so I can give up again and get a vapouriser, then I'll whip it round to ducati's place, and get him to fit a Holley 4 barrel carburettor, and a neat set of gasflowed headers to it, it'll be 'trick' Laughing
susie

Thank you fred, I feel more knowledgeable about it now. Actually, it sounds interesting, but I got worried when you mentioned your AGA, I've been inhaling fumes from the Rayburn for decades and never thought it exactly 'cool'!
You sound so happy with your on-going trial, it was good to read.
Jax

Does anyone know if its true that from next month it will be illegal to smoke in a vehicle with a child on board?
cait

fred wrote:
susie wrote:
What are all these things you are mentioning? Are they air filters?
I think I'm missing out on many things these days!


The possibilities are endless, it's all about finding the perfect vape for you.

There are loads of different e-liquid flavours to try and you can mix and match them and even buy the ingredients and make your own. A lot of people who don't smoke cigarettes vape nicotine free liquids just for the flavours. (Some of the vanilla ones are to die for, don't like the mint ones myself but loads of people do.)

Some people move on to vapourisers with replaceable wicks and coils and batteries with variable voltage(mods). They can mess around with different resistance of coils and battery settings to tune it to what they like. There are bottom wicks and top wicks each with their own advantages and disadvantages.

The more adventurous still get rebuildable vapes  and experiment making their own coils and wicks. There are various materials for wicks, I've used silica, ekowool, plain cotton wool and stainless steel, they are all different in the taste and amount of vapour they produce and how well they wick.

At the moment I'm using an AGA-S rebuildable with stainless steel mesh wick and a 2.5 ohm coil. The juice is a tobacco flavour high nicotine diluted 50/50 with ordinary vegetable glycerine from Tescos. I'll keep on chasing that perfect vape and with luck I'll never find it.

we are here in the presence of a connoiseur.  Very Happy

i thought these things were for desperate folk, not connoisseurs. one lives and learns, does one not?
cait

Jax wrote:
Does anyone know if its true that from next month it will be illegal to smoke in a vehicle with a child on board?

i do now.

good.  Smile
mrsbradey

I agree,  It can't be a bad thing if true.!!
cait

so is it really true?
Jax

Not sure all I could find online was its due to come into force in 2015 but I think that was referring to England and Wales with no mention of Scotland.
cait

thanks, i was being lazy and hoped someone would google it.  Embarassed
MI16

smoking whilst driving should be illegal.
You still see many HGV, taxi and van drivers flouting the law by smoking at the wheel.
mrsbradey

MI16 wrote:
smoking whilst driving should be illegal.
You still see many HGV, taxi and van drivers flouting the law by smoking at the wheel.


Up here in Caithness a large percentage of truck drivers seem to have their phones sruck to their heads. I even just recently saw a stagecoach bus coming out of Thurso, the driver of which, was on his phone and carrying passengers!!

So it doesn't matter it being against the law, with little or no police officers about! Shocked
Jax

There is absolutely no excuse for using a hand held phone these days, if I'd been on the bus and noticed the driver using the phone whilst driving I might have had something to say about it!  


Evil or Very Mad
MI16

whilst driving out of aberdeen one day I spotted an HGV driving with his phone to his ear, as I pulled out of the junction behinh him I noticed him weave ever so slightly along the road.
I wouldnt normally do so but i decided to call the number on the back of the truck, and I got his office.
I quoted the registration number and said whee he was and was on his mobile whilst in motion.
The guy then says "Ok so do you want his number or what?"
I replied "are you not concerned that he is driving a HGV whilst using a handheld phone?"
They replied oh ok yes we will talk to him.
My eye they will.
fred

"Vape" Oxford Dictionary word of the year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/30092689

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