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John Little

Cash to spare guv'nor....

I see that the Scottish Government has underspent by £450 million in the last year.

The year before they underspent £179 million.

Must be nice to have so much money you can't think of anything to spend it on.
RagnarRocks

You're quite right must be wonderful to how all that cash sloshing around the government funds amazing what centralising services and starving hospitals of cash will achieve maybe Caithness Hospital can write to Nicola Sturgeon and ask for a few quid to employ surgeons for Caithness
MI16

That surprises me, we can expect a budget  cut soon then
mrsbradey

Re: Cash to spare guv'nor....

John Little wrote:
I see that the Scottish Government has underspent by £450 million in the last year.

The year before they underspent £179 million.

Must be nice to have so much money you can't think of anything to spend it on.


Alex Salmon can always take it to Westminster when he goes!!
mrsbradey

Re: Cash to spare guv'nor....

mrsbradey wrote:
John Little wrote:
I see that the Scottish Government has underspent by £450 million in the last year.

The year before they underspent £179 million.

Must be nice to have so much money you can't think of anything to spend it on.


Alex Salmon can always take it to Westminster when he goes!!
Maybe he can fix the roof up a bit with it!!
John Little

You can stock a lot of food banks wi that sort o siller....
mrsbradey

John Little wrote:
You can stock a lot of food banks wi that sort o siller....


To feed the BSP's!!!
John Little

Bullshit party?
mrsbradey

No, me old friends the 'Benefit Street Parasites'!!
RagnarRocks

But of course haven't you realised those terribly poor hard up types who somehow managed to struggle by before without food banks now have an overwhelming requirement for them. The bleeding heart luvvies would never for one second twig that there's an awful lot of crafty chavs out there who would talk the gold fillings out of their teeth given half a chance. Why buy food when some sap will believe your hard luck story and give you free food. Just because the council pays your rent and you get money from the social doesn't for one second mean you can afford fags booze and night down the pub followed by a take away.
mrsbradey

RagnarRocks wrote:
But of course haven't you realised those terribly poor hard up types who somehow managed to struggle by before without food banks now have an overwhelming requirement for them. The bleeding heart luvvies would never for one second twig that there's an awful lot of crafty chavs out there who would talk the gold fillings out of their teeth given half a chance. Why buy food when some sap will believe your hard luck story and give you free food. Just because the council pays your rent and you get money from the social doesn't for one second mean you can afford fags booze and night down the pub followed by a take away.


Careful you don't wake the sleeping ghost of splodge with that kind of talk!!!
RagnarRocks

Well she can awaken and deny it but you'd have to go a long way to convince me that a lot of the food bank users aren't chancers who know how to work the system and have bleeding heart liberals wrapped around their finger
mrsbradey

RagnarRocks wrote:
Well she can awaken and deny it but you'd have to go a long way to convince me that a lot of the food bank users aren't chancers who know how to work the system and have bleeding heart liberals wrapped around their finger


Me too on that one old chap!
John Little

I have no doubt that food banks are necessary in some areas, having worked in some very poor districts.

I know that right across Europe they have food banks.  But they also have VAT on food.  We do not.

So perhaps we have fewer food banks than most.

Even in holy Norway they have food banks which are run by the church, but legislated for by the state which has laws on the disposition of surplus food, working in partnership with food retailers.

But in a devolved government, where the ruling party bangs on about the scandal of food banks, then under spends by £450 million whilst blaming the "federal" government?

Do me a favour.  Are folk so blind?
RagnarRocks

I don't doubt there are a small number of people who do require them but I also feel a lot could be done to alleviate this problem by enforcing supermarkets to give some of the nearing out of date products to them. Although if you try giving fresh produce to a food bank they decline the offer as they can't store it. Which makes me wonder if they have to store food so long the demand can't be that high.
You're quite right about the £450 million though if the govt has still got access to this money why isn't being used on doing something for the people of Scotland.
I'm pretty sure given a population of 5 million 450 million could provide an awful lot of very nutrious meals
John Little

It's worth a thought that the VAT purchase tax that does not apply to the UK would be applied to new entrants to the EU though.

The last of the Scotland analysis Papers estimated 26% as the VAT rate in indy Scotland just to keep services etc as they already are.

I wonder if they included food in that?

I shall have another read of it.

If they did then there would I think be need of more food banks than now.
RagnarRocks

You also have to accept that if scotland had gone down the Indy route there is no doubt it would of been saddled with the €. Now consider how much that would of added to the costs of day to day living given that most food would be transported from UK up across the border.
If you consider the transaction costs which would be added to food prices and of course exchange rates the price of food wouldn't be as good as it is now.
Let alone the loss of revenue from companies being unfavourably priced due to the necessity of currency conversion
John Little

Lol!

Yes.  I agree.

But of course that was and is scaremongering.

No matter how crazy the idea, until it proves to be wrong it remains scaremongering.

I'm off to Europe for a couple of weeks in June.  The Euro has fallen significantly this past few weeks.

I read in the paper that it's a good year for Brits to have European holidays as it will all be so much cheaper for us.
RagnarRocks

I hear that the euro zone has fallen into deflation now such is the power house that is Europe which of course and Infu scotland wants to sell its soul to become a part of. Funny how the yessers want to be rid of a democratically elected accountable government for a non accountable failed to have its finance figures signed off for God knows how many years due to fraud and theft Europe. There must be some rare kind of madness that overwhelms them when they think oh yes that's a grand idea.
John Little

Not so rare I think.

So many people putting out mad and irresponsible dreams that when examined turned out to be lies or fell to bits.

The biggest lie of all was the seabed lie- and so easily checked because the records of the Scotland adjacent waters order are all online in the archives of Parliament.

But somebody should hold Chic Brodie to account for the West Coast oilfield lie where he claimed to have documentation showing it existed but has never produced it.

As to the RUK economy collapsing if Scotland withdrew its assets from the Bank of England- Scotlands bácking assets hover round £4bn held in the BOE.


and continually demanding that Westminster ask the EU for legal advice on Scotlands entry to the EU when Fiona Hyslop has the advice already and refuses to release it.


So much keich that you barely know where to begin to dismantle the utter mendacity of it.
RagnarRocks

Reality is the SNP are one of most efficient bunch of political chancers this country has seen for a long time. At the moment they've done an awful lot of tub thumping about how everything can be laid at the feet of Westminster. Should they get fortunate enough to win again and UKIP don't gallop through and steal some of their Thunder then a reckoning will soon to be had. With all the new powers filtering through they will no longer be able to blame Westminster and will have to shoulder the blame when the electorate starts to see how uterly and totally inept they truly are and once out of office they know full well they will be in the dustbin of Politcal parties and disappear into obscurity.
John Little

Indeed - they have tapped into a well of discontent and found the message that unites.

Whatever you are, they appear to echo what you think.

In reality I have never seen the like in this country and did not think it could happen in a sober and thoughtful nation noted for its intellectual life.
RagnarRocks

Takes a lot of effort to become everything to everyone it's really no mean feat
John Little

It requires a scapegoat to blame all your ills upon, and vague soundbites that all can agree with.

The best example that comes to mind is 'Democracy'.

Indy Scotland would be more 'democratic'.

All can agree on that.


But now define it.
RagnarRocks

You mean
The more free fair society
But considering this is one of the most free democratic countries in the world it makes me wonder what they actually want.
John Little

They all know what they want.

They.


It's the others.  They know what they want too.

Some want perma-tanned Socialist heaven.
Others want conscription - the Siol na Gael types are really frightening on that.

Some want to chmpion corporations with lower tax and lots of low paid jobs.

Some want green stuff, no fracking and no UCG.

They all want different things.

And indy will give it to them.


In their dreams
RagnarRocks

You can have it all
All of it
Whatever you want
It's free
It's fair
It's democratic
It's greener
More socially inclusive
We also have a rabbit in a hat and a mock turtle
John Little

That's about the size of it.
RagnarRocks

When you consider its a bit insulting to the electorate to treat them in such a cavalier manner but no doubts the Politcal leaders would say it's not us making these wild promises but activists who have no affiliation to whichever party it is they are purporting to represent.
John Little

What has truly gobsmacked me is the sheer ability of so many people to swallow nonsense whole.

Illuminati, the Rothschilds, David Icke, the black nobility- plots to do Scotland down by the evil English.  I've seen it all this last few months.

Unbelievable.

Tin hats should sell well- especially in the winter months,
RagnarRocks

Oh there are some corkers out there for sure.
Scotland makes a big deal about the amount of inventors and writers it has but it should also see if it can't get world record for the amount of tin hat shazam conspiracy theorists, because I think it must be in with a pretty good chance of lifting that mantle from the Californians.
John Little

I agree.

Complete eye opener- and I would never have thought that.
RagnarRocks

Mind I think it has done a lot to heal the religious and clan divides that have riven the country for centuries now it's yes or no divide made life so much easier
John Little

To paraphrase Lawrence of Arabia...

'So long as the British remain a divided people, so will they be a little people...'
RagnarRocks

Or the old
Divide and Conquer
John Little

Tells it straight from the shoulder.


http://www.scotsman.com/news/bria...t-underspend-is-a-waste-1-3656877
RagnarRocks

It certainly put pay to a lot of the myths about the SNP and some of the social policies so much for wanting to end inequality you could almost say that they have deliberatey set themselves on a path to inflict inequality on those least able to look after themselves in a push to gain political ground. It makes them and their supporters look even more ridiculous
RagnarRocks

I notice reading the papers today that there is to be a launch of a new centre right political party to challenge the SNP. It appears in Scotland the Conservative party is considered too toxic to gain any ground but there are sufficient voters out there who agree with less taxation and a decrease in the over burgeoned public sector. It's considered that main stream politics has become so left wing with its policies that many voters feel disenfranchised

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