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susie

Are GPs on Sunday necessary?

I know there's talk of this for England but really, do we need GPs at the weekend? I grew up with surgery times being more or less the same as office hours. Sometimes there was an evening surgery but not usually. I don't recall anyone being poorly at the weekend, if they were then they would have to wait till Monday and see the Doc then, or if seriously ill there was the Casualty Department at the cottage hospital. There was no appointment system either and it worked fine. If there were a lot of folk waiting you either waited or did your messages and came back later. I think they should leave Sundays alone.
RagnarRocks

Guinea Pigs should be 7 days a week no excuses for making an appointment to see your pet.
RagnarRocks

On a serious note up here it's easy to get an appointment to see your doctor but down south long waits,as in over a week are quite normal, if the system is creaking that much maybe 7 days a week is the way forward. It's not as though with the remuneration gps are on they work excessively hard.
susie

RagnarRocks wrote:
On a serious note up here it's easy to get an appointment to see your doctor but down south long waits,as in over a week are quite normal, if the system is creaking that much maybe 7 days a week is the way forward. It's not as though with the remuneration gps are on they work excessively hard.

You're right, they get sufficient and always have. I think this 7 day plan is doomed because they don't have enough staff now so what will they do if they start all week surgeries?
The practice I go to is still full of locums etc, it's crap. I hate this way of seeing someone different everytime. I like continuity. Last time I went I wanted the GP to look at my back, wanted to know if the extra lumps and bumps was even more arthritis or Osteoporosis, she said "the lumps on your back are called vertebrae" . I left without another word.
I have wondered since if I look like a brainless, mindless moron. The only explation is that, indeed, I must do.
Jax

Susie, that's not so good you received poor service from a locum. I have the opposite experience where locums have been my saviour, doing more detailed examinations rather than fobing off with more painkillers.

I don't think there is a need for surgeries to be open more or on a Sunday. I think a doctor service to do home visits would be of more benefit.
susie

Maybe I should try again Jax.
I think home visits are and always used to be a really good thing. Particularly for older folk and little kiddies. Both groups are always better treated at home. My uncle was a GP and he always encouraged his pensioners to ring for a home visit, they loved him and he enjoyed his traipsing about. I think he had a 'godlike' quality to patients. We all detested him, he was a miserable bugger and only came to life at work.
RagnarRocks

Very easy to say there's no need for Sunday appointments when you live in one of the most least densely populated parts of the country where gps can be seen the next day. Try living in a large town or city where a GP is a minimum 7 day wait regardless of your problem.

Most doctors are on over 100k a year about time they started to earn it and work instead of bleating how they spent 9 yrs studying for their licence. Or are we supposed to let them have a cushty life because they had the privilege of going to medical school.

I'd prefer a system where doctors, dentists and surgeons where trained by the state then contractually obliged to work for the NHS for a set period of time. Instead of turning to private practice then raping the NHS for consultancy fees.
susie

You are right Mr RR,It is easg to say when we live here. So, can we have 7 day service only where it's needed most?
It costs a small fortune to do 7 or 9 years at Uni and medical schools. As with many students they qualify with a massive debt.
I agree, unreservedly, that all medical professionals do a good long stint for the NHS before swanning off into private practice or going abroad.
RagnarRocks

It's on the soppy liberal lefties that don't want a 7 day a week service for 7 day a week wages. They are still living in the heady socialist 70s with their 9-5 , 5 day week mentalities  Shocked
susie

RagnarRocks wrote:
It's on the soppy liberal lefties that don't want a 7 day a week service for 7 day a week wages. They are still living in the heady socialist 70s with their 9-5 , 5 day week mentalities Shocked

I do not know if I'm soppy, liberal or leftie. I've never understood political jargon.
I've never had a 9 to 5 job, or done a 5 day week. Most of my adult life I've worked 7 days a week, 52 weeks of the year for bloody near fuck all, and Ive got fuck all to show for it either. But, excellent memories, brown lined leathery skin, half broken back and virtual FREEDOM from all the crap trappings and claptrap of so-called modern life.
cait

today i worked from 9 until 1, with about 2 hours break.

i bet none of you can beat that!
susie

cait wrote:
today i worked from 9 until 1, with about 2 hours break.

i bet none of you can beat that!


You're right there, but I wouldn't mind lessons as I think I'm missing out. Maybe I can come and work for you.
cait

susie wrote:
cait wrote:
today i worked from 9 until 1, with about 2 hours break.

i bet none of you can beat that!


You're right there, but I wouldn't mind lessons as I think I'm missing out. Maybe I can come and work for you.

sure, you too can work from 9am to 1am with two hours break.

you didn't think...?
susie

No
Haggis Muncher

It won't work up here until full-time permanent doctors are employed by NHS Highland. Too many locums and stand-ins at the moment and the remuneration packages on offer are aimed at tempting doctors up here but it just isn't working.
Illness is random, same as the docs up here but there are a couple of good ones here in Wick with upwards of a 2 week waiting list for an appointment so that puts the 7 days a week doctor issue to rest when ill patients are prepared to wait more than 2 weeks to see their doctor.
You could put it another way - would you work 7 days a week in your job?
therealducati

but moto GPs are always on a sunday (unless at assen of course) Very Happy

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