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John Little



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:58 pm    Post subject: Cash to spare guv'nor....  Reply with quote

I see that the Scottish Government has underspent by £450 million in the last year.

The year before they underspent £179 million.

Must be nice to have so much money you can't think of anything to spend it on.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're quite right must be wonderful to how all that cash sloshing around the government funds amazing what centralising services and starving hospitals of cash will achieve maybe Caithness Hospital can write to Nicola Sturgeon and ask for a few quid to employ surgeons for Caithness

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That surprises me, we can expect a budget  cut soon then
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Cash to spare guv'nor.... Reply with quote

John Little wrote:
I see that the Scottish Government has underspent by £450 million in the last year.

The year before they underspent £179 million.

Must be nice to have so much money you can't think of anything to spend it on.


Alex Salmon can always take it to Westminster when he goes!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Cash to spare guv'nor.... Reply with quote

mrsbradey wrote:
John Little wrote:
I see that the Scottish Government has underspent by £450 million in the last year.

The year before they underspent £179 million.

Must be nice to have so much money you can't think of anything to spend it on.


Alex Salmon can always take it to Westminster when he goes!!
Maybe he can fix the roof up a bit with it!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can stock a lot of food banks wi that sort o siller....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Little wrote:
You can stock a lot of food banks wi that sort o siller....


To feed the BSP's!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bullshit party?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, me old friends the 'Benefit Street Parasites'!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But of course haven't you realised those terribly poor hard up types who somehow managed to struggle by before without food banks now have an overwhelming requirement for them. The bleeding heart luvvies would never for one second twig that there's an awful lot of crafty chavs out there who would talk the gold fillings out of their teeth given half a chance. Why buy food when some sap will believe your hard luck story and give you free food. Just because the council pays your rent and you get money from the social doesn't for one second mean you can afford fags booze and night down the pub followed by a take away.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RagnarRocks wrote:
But of course haven't you realised those terribly poor hard up types who somehow managed to struggle by before without food banks now have an overwhelming requirement for them. The bleeding heart luvvies would never for one second twig that there's an awful lot of crafty chavs out there who would talk the gold fillings out of their teeth given half a chance. Why buy food when some sap will believe your hard luck story and give you free food. Just because the council pays your rent and you get money from the social doesn't for one second mean you can afford fags booze and night down the pub followed by a take away.


Careful you don't wake the sleeping ghost of splodge with that kind of talk!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well she can awaken and deny it but you'd have to go a long way to convince me that a lot of the food bank users aren't chancers who know how to work the system and have bleeding heart liberals wrapped around their finger
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RagnarRocks wrote:
Well she can awaken and deny it but you'd have to go a long way to convince me that a lot of the food bank users aren't chancers who know how to work the system and have bleeding heart liberals wrapped around their finger


Me too on that one old chap!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no doubt that food banks are necessary in some areas, having worked in some very poor districts.

I know that right across Europe they have food banks.  But they also have VAT on food.  We do not.

So perhaps we have fewer food banks than most.

Even in holy Norway they have food banks which are run by the church, but legislated for by the state which has laws on the disposition of surplus food, working in partnership with food retailers.

But in a devolved government, where the ruling party bangs on about the scandal of food banks, then under spends by £450 million whilst blaming the "federal" government?

Do me a favour.  Are folk so blind?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't doubt there are a small number of people who do require them but I also feel a lot could be done to alleviate this problem by enforcing supermarkets to give some of the nearing out of date products to them. Although if you try giving fresh produce to a food bank they decline the offer as they can't store it. Which makes me wonder if they have to store food so long the demand can't be that high.
You're quite right about the £450 million though if the govt has still got access to this money why isn't being used on doing something for the people of Scotland.
I'm pretty sure given a population of 5 million 450 million could provide an awful lot of very nutrious meals
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's worth a thought that the VAT purchase tax that does not apply to the UK would be applied to new entrants to the EU though.

The last of the Scotland analysis Papers estimated 26% as the VAT rate in indy Scotland just to keep services etc as they already are.

I wonder if they included food in that?

I shall have another read of it.

If they did then there would I think be need of more food banks than now.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You also have to accept that if scotland had gone down the Indy route there is no doubt it would of been saddled with the €. Now consider how much that would of added to the costs of day to day living given that most food would be transported from UK up across the border.
If you consider the transaction costs which would be added to food prices and of course exchange rates the price of food wouldn't be as good as it is now.
Let alone the loss of revenue from companies being unfavourably priced due to the necessity of currency conversion
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol!

Yes.  I agree.

But of course that was and is scaremongering.

No matter how crazy the idea, until it proves to be wrong it remains scaremongering.

I'm off to Europe for a couple of weeks in June.  The Euro has fallen significantly this past few weeks.

I read in the paper that it's a good year for Brits to have European holidays as it will all be so much cheaper for us.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear that the euro zone has fallen into deflation now such is the power house that is Europe which of course and Infu scotland wants to sell its soul to become a part of. Funny how the yessers want to be rid of a democratically elected accountable government for a non accountable failed to have its finance figures signed off for God knows how many years due to fraud and theft Europe. There must be some rare kind of madness that overwhelms them when they think oh yes that's a grand idea.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not so rare I think.

So many people putting out mad and irresponsible dreams that when examined turned out to be lies or fell to bits.

The biggest lie of all was the seabed lie- and so easily checked because the records of the Scotland adjacent waters order are all online in the archives of Parliament.

But somebody should hold Chic Brodie to account for the West Coast oilfield lie where he claimed to have documentation showing it existed but has never produced it.

As to the RUK economy collapsing if Scotland withdrew its assets from the Bank of England- Scotlands bácking assets hover round £4bn held in the BOE.


and continually demanding that Westminster ask the EU for legal advice on Scotlands entry to the EU when Fiona Hyslop has the advice already and refuses to release it.


So much keich that you barely know where to begin to dismantle the utter mendacity of it.

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